Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 12, 2004 16:54:16 GMT
Hi all,
So I made my first recording....
It's mp3/128kbps/44kHz and 4.3Mb and 4:41 long. I have registered on SoundClick and would be grateful if someone could tell me how to upload so you can check it out. I'm assuming the song's properties are OK.
WARNING: Listening to it could seriously relaaaax you or even send you to sleep (like it did me last night!!).
Thanx
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Post by nikonbob55 on Mar 12, 2004 19:06:13 GMT
Hi Robin, To upload your song to SoundClick, simply log in with your username and password, then if you haven't yet created a band to administer, do so by following the screen prompts. After that, go to Band Administration, and you'll see a link to Upload new songs. Again, follow the on-screen prompts, and your song should upload with no problems. The specs you stated for your MP3 should be perfect. Looking forward to hearing it! Bob
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 16, 2004 11:26:52 GMT
Bob wrote....
....So am I looking forward to hearing it!! I followed the steps you gave me (Thnx), uploaded several days ago, emailed SoundClick's support to ask why it's not there and still no reply.
Are SoundClick usually this sloooow? They state quite clearly that music will appear only one day later.
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Post by mcarp555 on Mar 16, 2004 12:32:26 GMT
No, it generally takes a day or less for the artist page to appear. After that, when you upload a song, you'll get a little bar graph that shows the upload progress, then it encodes the lo-fi version, and that's it. What's the link to the artist page?
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 16, 2004 13:47:18 GMT
Thanks Mike,
I thought I had uploaded my song but now I discover (while trying to find my 'artist page' link for you) that I had not done so!
Now it's done....complete with picture and description. Thanks.
I hope people enjoy it....It's the first song I have ever recorded myself. Now to record some more music.
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Post by mcarp555 on Mar 16, 2004 14:52:14 GMT
Okay, great. Now, can we have the link. . . ?
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 16, 2004 15:15:41 GMT
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Post by mcarp555 on Mar 16, 2004 15:25:34 GMT
No Robin, I have to manually add the link to the list of member's SC pages. If you look through the other posts in this section, most people include the link just to make it easier for everyone to find & listen. Or you can put it in your signature. It's not a requirement, but it's not automatic (I wish!).
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Post by mcarp555 on Mar 16, 2004 15:47:55 GMT
Okay, I've had a listen. . . Very nice. Reminds me a lot of Paul Horn. I know you've mentioned Coyote Oldman, but doesn't he usually use percussion as well? I've got one or two of his pieces floating around the house somewhere; I'll try to remember to dig them up and compare. There's very little you can do with this sort of music on a technical level - maybe edit the beginning & ending a bit to remove some of the pauses between the music and the beginning/ending of the file. That and a bit of EQ to enhance the low end slightly would be about it. But not doing any of that won't be a major obstacle, either. I'd like to hear some of what you're doing with your guitarist friend as well. It's a nice change to hear something really different with a PS5 than the typical Pop/Rock staple. Oh, and I've added your link to the list of SC sites.
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 16, 2004 18:06:10 GMT
Hi Mike....So glad you enjoyed it.
I'll add a link to make it all easier for everyone - in my signature is a good idea. Is that all I need do?
I don't know Paul Horn's solo work but only what he has recorded with Carlos Nakai. Carlos has made over 30 CDs and has gradually expanded his Native musical origins to the point where he has recently formed a jazz quartet! Personally I prefer his music in which he can be better heard and which isn't trying quite so hard. I have an enormous respect for him and feel very encouraged by any Native musician's attempts to expand beyond his/her traditional roots. Carlos hasn't lost his roots, he just makes other music as well.
Coyote Oldman is also a flutemaker and taught my very good friend Raymond Redfeather how to make flutes. Coyote Oldman's music often uses 'bass' flutes and is particularly melancholy and more recently he has started to use percussion....Carlos Nakai has set the trend! I don't have any of his flutes but I have several made for me by Raymond.
I shall have a go in GarageBand to tweak the file in some of the ways you suggest....thanks for your feedback. It's interesting that you say there's very little you can do with this sort of music on a technical level - Fundamentally, when you play "Native Style" which I'm told I do naturally, you come to understand that the Native American flute is more than just a musical instrument. Those Indian people I know who are very traditional have taught me that flute songs are gifts and I find that when I play stuff like Dreamland I do not feel free to radically edit the recording afterwards.
In time I would love to share with you here my efforts with my acoustic guitarist friend. Sometimes she embellishes my lead playing and other times I embellish hers, she also sings. Apart from the more serious spiritual side of these flutes, I am beginning to really enjoy playing with other people (and synths!!) but it's in some ways limited by the fact that all my flutes are native-tuned in minor keys and not European diatonic, and also that I have only been playing for 18 months.
I guess we have been focussing on the music rather than the tool (PS5) in this thread. I could go on, and on, and best not do so.
Thanks for listening (to both my words and music).
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Post by nikonbob55 on Mar 16, 2004 21:22:29 GMT
Nice work Robin - your use of the delay creates an almost "conversational" use of the echos of your melody. "Dreamland" is an appropriate name for your piece!
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 16, 2004 22:38:12 GMT
Thank you Bob.
The track Dreamland does show off some of the capabilities of that pedal. I played it on an Eminor (Native tuned: Pentatonic). With a highDminor flute a long 4-seconds delay can get quite wild! I can't read or write music so I just close my eyes and play according to what I hear, so you are absolutely spot on - I was kinda playing 'conversational echoes' - If walls could talk! I don't always play with delay but I thought you guys might get a bit bored if there wasn't enough going on.
The track title "Dreamland" only came when I was unexpectedly confronted with giving it a name to upload it to SoundClick. "Oh Shit! What am I going to call it?" I thought. Then I remembered I had fallen asleep into dreamland listening to it the night I recorded it!
I'm looking forward to possibly collaborating with others here in due course. It could be tricky but....
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Post by JimDurand on Mar 20, 2004 6:08:43 GMT
Robin,
I see what you mean about the Grand Canyon effect. There's a part in the middle of the piece where you echo yourself at about the same time the delay unit echos, resulting in a pair of echos. Interesting!
Nice low tone.
Jim
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Robin "Two-Flutes"
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Post by Robin "Two-Flutes" on Mar 20, 2004 9:33:08 GMT
Hi Jim, Thanks for listening and responding. Yes, I must have had Grand Canyon Syndrome since birth! The effect is very much full-on in this particular track - I don't always use delay but always reverb unless I'm unplugged. I keep being invited to folk club gigs and they are strictly unplugged....Scary but both interesting and challenging. A guy came to the last one with a classical flute....his playing wasn't too good but he also sang (not at the same time!!) some typically old seafaring story-songs with his strong West Country accent. Very happy live gigs: Banjo, Accordian, lots of Acoustic Guitarists, one of them a Taylor with simply the best tone I've heard for a long time. Thanks for pointing it out - I wasn't aware of my simultaneous echoing skills! I just improvise as I play....sometimes the result goes nowhere and sometimes it hits the sweet spot - It's exactly why I got the PS5 for recording such songs (when I manage to get it together!). Scott Loomis, who made that lowE(minor) is well-known for his flutes' 'voices' - always clear and strong. His flutes are concert standard. They are fine pieces of craftsmanship as well - this one has a carved Golden Eagle head and has paintwork by a young Native artist Tom Smith: www.oregonflutestore.com/loomis.htmwww.loomisflute.comLike most people here, I'm totally addicted to my music.
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Post by Gamma on Apr 1, 2004 22:10:11 GMT
Hey Robin!
I find the sound to be EXTREMELY rich. This music is spiritual as you well describe it...
Congratulations on a great piece. I look forward to more...
Gamma
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