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Post by mattl on Sept 15, 2004 23:04:53 GMT
yes... i got all the way up to 1.7 in private (semi). this isnt a ps5 tune (but ps5 was my noise suppressor) hey theres a good story to this and ill be back to tell it but gotta watch jimmy netron w.the kid be right back. in the meantime on it's on soundclick for now.. there may be some minor fixes but im mostly done...
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Post by mattl on Sept 15, 2004 23:56:17 GMT
ok.. so i did some mixing once for roger (roger whats that song you did, i couldnt find on your sooundclick page?) and i never deleted it off my ps5. when i started a new song that i thought worked great at the same tempo.. so i recorded an acoustic rythm and lead and then when i went to record a 3rd track i turn it up and hear roger singing.. and its in time but half is outta key and half in key.. i thought it sounded very cool so i mixed down and sent to him, i kept a copy and listened for a few times and the phrase from rogers song "we were lovers" wouldnt leave my head. so i incorporated it into my new song and i used that exact same guitar track (exported it to computer) and built this new song around that, recording the rest of the tracks on the pc. so i worked on the lyrics for a couple weeks, and did the singing and bass (played on guitar using acoustic bass sound of gtr synth) in a oucple days. roger gave me some feedback , did some minor retakes.. done. really focussing on quality of lyric and recording.. i eventually, some day, plan to give some more focus to arrangement.. in the meantime i tried singing this particular one different ways on purpose to add more interest.. think it helped. .its exciting that its within my power to achieve cd quality results even with simple cheap equipment (and some of my stuff is not simple and cheap so ive no excuse ) the only obvious thing i really feel like i cant get right is the bass sound.. i couldnt get the sound i wanted even with eq... trying to get the midrange out of it so its a warm low end but not too boomy. what i have came out ok but its not what i really wanted. anyhow, if anyone here wants a copy of the track send me a pm and ill post a link to it for you.
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Post by Objecks on Sept 16, 2004 0:49:05 GMT
Hi Matt! Great lyrics! Charlie
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Post by holzra on Sept 16, 2004 2:46:01 GMT
yeah, that's roger . . . half in key and half outa key . . . . my life story great, great song matt . . . . the hours, the untold hours you put into this song, and, yes, the angst, over it were definitely worth it . . . . r
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Post by mattl on Sept 16, 2004 2:58:49 GMT
ya know reading that i was wondering if it sounded like that.. no no what happened was i recorded the acoustic guitar to the metronome ONLY, i had NO idea your song was there.. so my song was something like c/f/g pretty much and i know most of your song was in another key and only some of it worked as a "normal" song as you heard.. but that was cause they werent desinged to go together not cause you were outta key heres rog's song "just a matter" you can see where i got some lyric ideas from (with permission) www.funender.com/music/play.php?band_id=1077&song_id=8821&mode=song_hifipicture the guitar track of "covered" with rogers vocal on this song.. it was wierd.
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Post by holzra on Sept 16, 2004 3:12:33 GMT
c'mon buddy . . . don't be sensitive . . . i do sing half in key and half outa key . . . . as usual, bustin' on you . . . .
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Post by mattl on Sept 16, 2004 3:15:07 GMT
tito, get me a tissue
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Post by holzra on Sept 16, 2004 3:17:01 GMT
tito, first help me find my nose, then tito, get me a tissue
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Post by mattl on Sept 16, 2004 3:18:00 GMT
its behind those children
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Post by mattl on Sept 16, 2004 3:18:45 GMT
mike is gonna kill me
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Post by sgulley on Sept 16, 2004 3:31:38 GMT
Very poetic, great phrases, synth backing.... the whole mix. The time you've put into it shows. Guess if we are going to compare song writing to house construction you might say that most of mine are usually finished about the time I nail the tin roof on the one-room shack. Definitely not Ivan ready. Tin-voice, tin roof, yeah I see the comparison now. Good song. Enjoyed listening. Stan
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Post by mattl on Sept 17, 2004 1:42:02 GMT
thanks guys, charlie thats somethin....wow. i did just post an small update with the drums/bass a smidge louder.. (cause see, if the druinms and bass were better i would want them louder but.. ya know) the parts where the cymbals are off quite a a bit that are real noticeable.. do you think it sounds really bad? (they are behind some other busy parts to help hide it..) my thoughts were that most of it is pretty good and it was some "character" left in the song (like the loud vocal part.. coulda been alot cleaner but....) .i thought it wasnt really detracting from the groove.. am i wrong? i could easily fix with some cut and paste if you think.. its impossiblke for me to hear this with perspective.. its almost like my mind fades out the bad parts , so immersed in the damn thing , so i need to check in..
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Post by mattl on Sept 18, 2004 3:49:44 GMT
nobody's going down THAT road i guess.. i tried.. well i guess ill haveta make that decision alone,.. i think i like first one more w/drums farther back.. hides the bad part better.. hmm. we'll see. i cant let this be abnother nancy.. i ill stop soon.. no, really . so i was incorrect, this IS partly a ps5 song i forgot!! (recorded that rythm on the ps5 and of course used it for noise suppression and all signals went through it..) think that rythm gtr part came out pretty good sounding considering i recorded it from ps5 to the pc. cool. thanks so much for the support & listenin.
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Post by Objecks on Sept 18, 2004 5:14:36 GMT
Hey Matt! This mix sounds pretty good. Can't really do a side-by-side comparison, though, since I don't have your first mix. To me, the song works well as primarily acoustic guitar and vocal, with percussion and bass in the background. The bass is quiet, but it doesn't feel like anything is missing. The lyrics strike me as very original, particularly in your choice of words and the details that you've chosen to paint into the song's pictures. Your tune has more variation than some of your earlier songs, and that adds interest to the song. I struggle a bit to understand and follow the lyrics, especially after the instrumental break. (ADD strikes again?) That left me a bit confused. I hear "separate covers" and something about a "conference" and wonder what that means about the relationship. I don't understand the words that surround and immediately follow "conference," so I'm missing part of the story. Oh yeah, one other thing that occured to me, in the structure of the song, when you sing "covered by the night / hidden far away from sight...," there's a bit of change in the tune. I kind of expected that to become the refrain. But then, that particular phrase / tune never repeats. Just would have given me a comfortable place to hang my hat if it had repeated. I think this is one of your best compositions! I've gotta wonder how a song would turn out if I wrote the tune and you wrote the lyrics... Charlie
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Post by mattl on Sept 18, 2004 12:30:25 GMT
charlie (holz & stan) thanks for the more in depth feedback, of course im NOT complaining about "wow". heheheh . as you guys know im pretty new to this still.. yea i still havent decided which mix i like better.. probably drums back even more than what you hear, with a little less compression.. . (but maybe more in vocals so you can hear it better) yea i guess ADD strikes everything i do.. wham. after the break its: u were a friend of mine & we became lovers, found ourselves tangled neath our seperate covers.. so here we are in the in the coming twilight, surrounded as we'll be by the blue black night, as the sky fades soon to a darker hue.. in the fading light i gaze at you.. its interesting how sometimes you write the lyrics and youre singing it a certain way, it all fits.. then you come back to the song and forget exactly how you were singing it.. and have to rework some words.. that happen to yous? happens to me all the time.. i just reverted it back to the first one you heard (1.7).. theres an issue (in all my songs) im going to have to figure out shortly .. the acoustic and my voice have mucho overlap in terms of eq.. sometime ill have to sit down and do some testing so i know where to look in the future instead of guessing each time im working on a song..
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