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Post by nikonbob55 on Jan 7, 2006 21:47:21 GMT
Hi Stan, Good idea! I've always created the MP3's for SoundClick right in the computer after I've "mastered" the mix there. I did not catch any noticable quality loss as a result of your process. As good as these things sound in MP3 format, it's remarkable how much better they are when they haven't been compressed, isn't it? That difference, to my ears, is far greater than the difference between 24 and 16 bit playback.
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Post by sgulley on Jan 8, 2006 20:38:16 GMT
Sound Click compresses their streaming so much that I instantly hear a difference during playback with their player (hi-fi). The only way to get a quailty sound is to download the MP3 to your computer and playback with a good local MP3 player. That's my opinion anyway.
Stan
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Post by nikonbob55 on Jan 9, 2006 2:02:46 GMT
I'll have to give that a try and A/B the sound - when I listen to the SoundClick stuff, I just click the hi-fi, and off it goes. I've never downloaded any MP3's from there.
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Post by mcarp555 on Feb 3, 2006 10:36:13 GMT
Having just listened to "Badger's Den", this is a complete 180. As I've said a million times Stan, you can do amazing work if you just apply yourself to it, as you've done here. Listening in lo-fi, the mix sounds okay for the most part. It's hard to tell what's mix and what's streaming compression. That said, I'd still like a better ending than just fading out in mid-stream. Overall very pretty; you can see the difference in restraint rather than playing everything at once. Another winner! Maybe we can get Cameron to add some "hums" for backing vocals?
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Post by sgulley on Feb 3, 2006 16:49:53 GMT
Mike, Thanks for your words of encouragement. I will need to revisit the ending again, and see if there is a better way to finish it up.
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Post by Rob on Feb 5, 2006 7:10:58 GMT
blimey stan. this is fantastic. this is by far not only the best thing youve done, its one of the best tunes posted here. theres a lot to say, but its pretty much been said. i think only thing i want to add is about the lyrics. love songs can so easily sound trite, but you not only made the lyrics real and new, but you did something very interesting and that was really fit the lyrics with the melody, and that really helps the whole thing to bounce along. i wish i could get technical about it but i just dont know how to articulate it. let me know if you know mean!this tune, lyrics, performance, recording really is a significant milestone in your progress stan.
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Post by Rob on Feb 5, 2006 7:18:01 GMT
mate you dont need the vocal correction tools. your vocals sounds great on this track. really i think you should re evaluate where you are now. remember what cam was like when he started out...well ok hes made an unusually massive leap in quality, but he also put a massive amount of reading and practice in...but i think you can have the vocal quality you want just through practicing. you are much closer than you think.
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Post by sgulley on Feb 6, 2006 15:28:35 GMT
Thanks Rob because your input means a lot. Your point has been brought up a couple of times in this thread about the better quality; specifically on the vocal track. Reflecting back, this was more personal to me than my other postings, and so melody & words flowed more naturally with little if any strain or fabrication. It has a very simple G,C,D folk-country structure to it, and evidently must be around the range where I should be singing most of my songs. Also, recording with a condenser mic in front of the acoustic guitar has brought out a more natural sound (than the POD-direct plug). I think the majority of my time was spent setting up a MIDI track on the computer which wasn't complicated. Trying to analyze a more successful approach to writting a better song still hasn't come to me. I probably spent less time on this particular song than most of my other projects. It was simple, hopefully heart-felt, and natural to sing; but not necessarily very challenging from a music standpoint. Thanks for all of your inputs. It has helped me look back on this process and I have learned some good things.
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Post by Rob on Feb 6, 2006 18:41:41 GMT
And reflecting on your reflection, i wonder if im being to bold to crystallize a few points you made: the song was more personal and so flowed better with little strain...a simple structure....you sang within in your range...you spent a lot of time setting up the midi track...not very musically challenging....all these things are things i too have learnt, and things i think that make a better sounding tune.
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Post by sgulley on Feb 6, 2006 19:08:59 GMT
And maybe reflecting just a tiny-bit further... On the PS5 Stones Project from a couple of years back, HF had a MIDI of "As Tears Go By" which is a song that also has this type structure (that we are talking about.)To didn't want to play it in the key of the MIDI file because I liked starting in "C" and had already worked out a comfortable picking-arrangement. So of course, the Capo was invented. HF played his open-string- chords matching the MIDI arrangement, and I capoed up and play my transposed open-string chords. The contrast between the 2 open-string chord relationships gave the song a much better sound because of this contrast. I know nothing about music theory but this trick might be something to keep in mind if you are looking for better depth to your slow, simple, stuff. Stan
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Post by Rob on Feb 6, 2006 20:22:30 GMT
thats cool stan, im gonna try that. i got a few ideas like this, i wonder if we have enough for a unique email string...)...i mean unique as in "its own string", not like no one ever came up with these ideas!!
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Post by sgulley on Feb 6, 2006 22:34:23 GMT
OK, I'll start a thread under "General Comments."
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