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Post by Objecks on Dec 7, 2003 17:42:42 GMT
Adding to my list of unfinished projects... I came up with a new song yesterday, which I call "Almost Winter." www.soundclick.com/bands/6/objecksprojecksmusic.htmThis is a very rough first draft just to get it down before I forgot it. I was reading a magazine article on Jimi Hendrix and how he obtained some of his sounds. I plugged into my RP100, dialed up some distortion, and started playing pieces of "Purple Haze," "Manic Depression," and "Hey Joe." Then I just started messing around and came up with "Almost Winter." (When I recorded it, I turned down the distortion for a mellower sound.) Wanted to run this by the Havin Fun test -- sounds vaguely familiar to me. HF, am I copying a Monkees song or something? Actually, to my ear, it has kind of a slow Santana song feel to it. One unusual (for me) thing I did was play the rhythm way up the neck and the lead lower down. A different kind of sound. Also different for me, I wrote the lead first, then fit chords to the lead. I almost always develop a melody from chords rather than chords from melody. Please let me know what you think -- especially if you can identify me plagiarizing somebody! Charlie
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Post by latmat on Dec 7, 2003 19:27:44 GMT
Intresting Melody. Sounds very pretty when you playing up high. You could practically sing the melody on the guitar. Is it going to stay a instrumental? I think it would sound great singing too. I look forward to your finished product. Good luck Should of been called friken Cold out lol. Man Im freezing here in alberta. Very cold out and to think its not winter yet even.
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Post by Objecks on Dec 7, 2003 20:20:45 GMT
Hey Cameron!
Thanks for the comments.
Don't know who's noticed, but I've had lyrical writer's block for quite a while. Other than some quick bits of shallow lyrics like on "Walrus 9" and the lyrics to come on "Latin," everything I've written for the past several years has been instrumental.
I'd like to add lyrics to "Almost Winter" and cut back on the solo guitar. I'd like for the lyrics to have something to do with the feeling of a dreary day as winter approaches. You seem to have an easy time with lyrics. Interested in co-writing?
Charlie
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Post by mattl on Dec 7, 2003 21:26:50 GMT
I like it charlie. good idea. will sound good tightened up. parts of it sound VAGUELY familier but i cant place it.
i agree cam, it IS winter. you should look out my window wee just had a 48hr storm top start the winter off, 1 1/2' of snow.. finally gonna break down and hget a snowthrower
thats new trick ive been utilizing lately too: using triad chords up the neck.. did it for short periods on the song im about to post.
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Post by latmat on Dec 7, 2003 21:35:17 GMT
Verse 1(My own melody) Its getting darker every day, the night is longer then the day and she's still far away.
I miss the light she brings and the sound the sound that she sings in the beggining of spring.
Chorus Im sitting here in this dreary day Almost winter almost winter
BridgeX2 Though its almost winter It wont take my breathe away Though its almost winter There will be brighter days
Hey charlie this is a good start. You should stick the ps5 files on the server thingy then I can lay a vocal track so you can hear how the words go. Theres two more verses that need to be done still. My verse melody fights alittle bit with your guitar melody but the chorus melodies works pretty good with each other. The bridge melody is exactly the same as the guitar almost. We'll have to work out a different arangment too probally. Not chord/rythym wise but Structure wise.
Hope you like it. Its your song, you dont have to use it if you dont want too.
Cameron
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Post by mattl on Dec 7, 2003 23:51:51 GMT
thats 2 songs about the coming winter and they're both sad. man am i lookin forward to the spring songs . count me in for one.
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Post by Objecks on Dec 8, 2003 5:20:08 GMT
Hey Cameron!
WOW! You make lyric writing look so easy!!
I would take the guitar solo part out of the sung verses. That will solve the vocal vs. guitar problem you mentioned. Just leave the fourth verse without lyrics for the solo.
I'm a little puzzled that you wrote three lines per verse, whereas the song is four lines per verse. I'll be interested to see how you fit that together.
Right now the structure is: intro (2 lines) - verse1 - verse2 - refrain - verse3 - verse4* - refrain - verse5 - repeat last two lines of verse 5.
* to be the guitar solo.
Where would you suggest adding a bridge? Maybe do the bridge INSTEAD OF the second refrain?
I'll post the PS5 files to mmm for you to play with, but I'll want to compose a midi file with percussion and maybe some kind of string or new age backing to fill in the mid-range, since rhythm guitar is played so high. Without that, removal of the lead guitar will leave a blank hole, instrumentally speaking.
Do you want me to post the PS5 files now, or wait until after we've established a structure and I've tightened down my playing?
Thanks for the lyrics, Cameron! I'm looking forward to the collaboration!
Charlie
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Post by Objecks on Dec 8, 2003 5:29:26 GMT
Hey Matt!
I'm like you -- parts of it remind me of other songs. I'm getting glimpses of:
"Theme from M*A*S*H" "Bus Stop" by the Hollies "25 or 6 to 4" by Chicago (bass) "Only a Million Days" by the Objecks (a song I wrote in 1971) something by Santana that I haven't identified
Charlie
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Post by Objecks on Dec 8, 2003 5:41:49 GMT
Hey Cameron!
Guess I should have mentioned that I posted it to mmm as groupshare/group originals/Almost Winter draft.zip.
Have fun!!
Charlie
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Post by latmat on Dec 8, 2003 15:03:08 GMT
Hey charlie great I ll get to work as soon as possible Welll the bridge I was singing is at 1:23 in the mp3 that I downloaded. That melody there is almost exactly what Id sing you play that part again later too.
Ill do abit of it then you can see.
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Post by latmat on Dec 9, 2003 0:12:48 GMT
Hey Charlie I wrote all the lyrics to the tune sang it and recorded it. Actually, all I think you gotta do is redo your lead guitar and we got a tune The file with my vocal, should be on the server now. Same place as your original file. I think we have one of the fastest callabs going lol. Heres the lyrics as of now: Verse 1 It's getting darker everyday the nights longer than day and she's still far away The trees are bare and the leaves blown away It's almost winter, almost winter Verse 2 I miss the light she brings and the sound that she sings in the beggining of spring Im sitting here in this dreary day It's almost winter, almost winter Chorus(Refrain)X2 Though it's almost winter It wont take my breath away Though it's almost winter there'll be brighter days Verse 3 The wind is getting so cold Fall is getting old and I dont feel so bold It's not unfair we knew the day would come It's almost winter, almost winter Verse 4(Solo) Chorus(Refrain)X2 Verse 5(Same lyrics as verse 2) Outro Im sitting here in this dreary day It's almost winter, almost winter
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Post by Objecks on Dec 9, 2003 2:36:17 GMT
Hey Cameron!
Oh, the exuberance of youth!! (where's the bouncy smiley when you need it?)
This IS just a first draft, right? I would definitely want to clean up and tighten all of the instrument parts before we call it final. I wasn't even using a metronome to keep time!
I'll download it now and give it a listen!
Thanks, Charlie
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Post by latmat on Dec 9, 2003 5:41:01 GMT
lol alright I was a little exited. Can you tell I tend to rush things. I cant believe you werent using a metronome that in it own is amazing to me. If anything it was honest.
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Post by Objecks on Dec 10, 2003 0:16:16 GMT
Hey Cameron! WOW! Sounds good!! I'll work on a final backing track over the next few days. I'll post a new PS5 file for you this weekend. Charlie
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Post by latmat on Dec 10, 2003 5:15:45 GMT
Hey charlie Great you got it working ehh. Glad you like it. I just realized that you didnt really ask for me to sing on the track, I just sort of asumed that I would I guess. Im happy to sing though. I look forward to the Final tracks. This is my first callab. Im just glad I have dsl. Getting stuff on and off the server would take forever with dial-up. Never realized how long that takes.
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