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Post by mattl on May 14, 2004 22:17:13 GMT
i dunno maybe its something in the water. wife likes, a good sign! called Take a Walk, experimntal, almost done.. maybe too much bass freq's.. opinions on eq? vocal is supposed to JUST be heard MOST of the time.. i recorded vocal live on mixdonw to avoid bounce.. you can imagine how long i been doing that also, what you guys think of the lead tone? i thought it was not bad.. i recorded it direct this time (first ever).,., trying to minimize noise in the recording.. the drums are killing me. in that dept. so i went out of a korg gtr multieffects directly into mixer and used an amp effect built in (mixer) and it does add a nice dimension to the sound as the korg sounds completely cheesy if recorded direct usually.. so it is at least better than without the "amp". also this lead trac k is one take all the way through.. figured keep it fun/rough its a wierd song anyhow as far as the eq goes since i used a "real" bass sound i had some difficulties separating drums/bass.. what i have so far is cut bass at 50hz about 5 db and cut drumtrack at 100hz about 3db. the bassdrum thump suffered but .. this may need some tweaking.. i also did the drums (micing) comopletely different yet again.. close mic the snare/hat and close mic the ride, and the bassdrum pedal of courser you can hear.. my toms sound horrible i need more practice tuning.. i also recorded drums witha reverb called stage which added a definite dimension to the sound.. on soundclick: www.soundclick.com/mattlor lamplight
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Post by JimDurand on May 15, 2004 2:36:08 GMT
Wow Matt. that's cool. Nice narator's voice. The opening is great! The timing of your statements and the guitar coming in. I can't understand a lot of your words, though. The vocals need to be more out front. Matt, where does this all come from? ? ?!!! I have this image of you eating breakfast in the morning just about to leave for work. Suddenly an idea pops into your head!! You run to your studio, rearrange mikes for 15 minutes, record one of your creations, and leave for work 2 hours late. You duck out early so you can come home and mix it. That evening you've got it posted here. Seriously, you've been on a role lately. Keep it up. Just don't loose your job! Jim
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Post by mattl on May 15, 2004 4:25:40 GMT
lol!!! youre closer to the truth than you would imagine.. i did have a 2 wk "vacation" where half of it was too sick to leave the house but only 2 days of it too sick to do anything like fix stuff.. so i had a lot of time.. i dont watch tv except rented movies a couple/few a wk. (but not lately) and TOH if i remember but regarding the day to day now that im back to work this wk.. welp.. quitting smoking has been a difficult thing for me.. i dont understand people who just "decide" and thats it. lots extra mental energy going on.. or maybe thats the manic depressive genes from mom , so anyhow i quit about a month or so after getting my ps5 so you lucky ducks got to deal with me and my creations,bad humor,lack of sleep, and renewed gear infatuation. (smokes to G.A.S., you hear about it all the time thank you for some feedback!! btw its a lot longer than 2 hours a song.. last night was about 2 hrs just doing drumtakes after abuut 1 hr of mic moving/testing
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Post by mcarp555 on May 15, 2004 12:19:42 GMT
Nice jazzy collage sound. I think I'd move the rhythm guitar farther back, and bring the lead up a bit more. The tones are good, but the rhythm starts to get montonous since there's very little variation in it, and it's so upfront while the lead is wailing away behind it.
Didn't notice any real problem with the bass thump; Maybe try a slight boost around 400Hz to see how it interacts with the kick.
As a piece, this didn't grab me as much as the past few have. More of a straight jazz feel than the earlier trancelike numbers. The obvious thing would be to simple cut it in the middle and add some bizarre echo-y dreamlike middle section that bears no relation to the rest of the song. Don't know if that would be the right thing to do, but like I said, the most obvious.
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Post by mattl on May 15, 2004 13:24:18 GMT
thanks , things to think about.
i agree on the rythm . boring.. we'll see what i can do with it.. ill of COURSE try any eq suggestion any changes require a new vocal take but ah well.. hopefully later tonigh ill have some time
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Post by mcarp555 on May 15, 2004 13:29:25 GMT
Matt, what I'd suggest is save a copy of the song file to your computer, then play around with the EQ settings. Don't go nuts redoing the vocal just on a hunch of mine. If you find some settings that really make a difference to you, then you can think about redoing the vocal with the new EQ. Otherwise just experiment with it on your own. Then you'll still have the master files safely tucked away on your PC.
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Post by mattl on May 15, 2004 19:14:09 GMT
yep defintely backup and i agree as i said.. might as well mess with it a little. too bad cant read music i was jaming to those chords the night before and making up some words to it and it sounded great, the next day i forgot exactly how i was playin it.. shoulda recorded..
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Post by sgulley on May 15, 2004 20:10:15 GMT
Matt, I really like it for both its uniqueness and guitar tones. I loved your use of the tremelo bar, and the ending was really cool. I'm definitely with you on the times I'm really jamming with the sound I want, and notice that only the Green light (not red and green) are on. Then, I can never quite get the track to sound the way it did if I had only had pushed the red. Recording can be some frustrating-fun stuff if that is even possible. Really cool "out-there" lyrics to your narration. Almost felt like I was in a jazz club sipping my club soda. Stan
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Post by mattl on May 16, 2004 3:55:29 GMT
welp did a little slice and dice i think it is an improvement but working on it does point out just how monotonous it is.. welp i think of it as another homework assignment i expounded on the lyrics a bit , decided to record them to a track for control.. (aggressive compression to keep level) so recorded vocs mostly all in the begining over (erasing) the lead that wasnt so hot.. that worked out ok.. faded the rythm just a tad per your suggestion mike but also cut 800hz 3db on the rythm, and that took out alot of its midrange which really blended it back.. i may have recorded the bass & drums a little more in the mix this time (attempting distraction LOL!) i had a fleeting inspiration to jiggle an effect live on mixdown so, caution to the wind, i think it works.. -youll know what i mean when you hear.. also you can definitely hear the words if you TRY dont knock yourself out though nothing to write to mom over on this . i kind of think of this as a "phish " song. a focus on the instrumentation with meaningless lyrics.. well. SORT of meaningless. funny thing: i never walk. well im JUST feeling well enough thurs to take a walk (as i usually will choose to jog, never walk) with the dog in the woods. well later i get home im working on this song and i decide on a monolog over this song, so i flip open a daily "meditation for men" book (which i never read but hey) looking for some subject matter (which ive also never done, as i said i had nothing to say really on this song) and i find this quote about angels speaking to men when they walk in the woods. tooooooooo wierd right? so theres my song project.
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Post by JimDurand on May 16, 2004 7:09:46 GMT
welp.. quitting smoking has been a difficult thing for me. ...... so anyhow i quit about a month or so after getting my ps5 ... I remember that. It's been quite a while now. Good job!
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Post by Rob on May 16, 2004 15:17:00 GMT
i think i have caught this after the next revision so im not sure how everyone s comments fit against this version. the guitars all sound cool, as well well drums and drums. and i know you said that the vocals were meant to be hard to hear, but it would be nice to have the vocal a little higher, cos it sounds like there is something interesting to hear! great track!
oh and please help me, i still dont know what G.A.S means of welp. (so frustrating not knowing, but so embarrassing to have to ask!)
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Post by JimDurand on May 16, 2004 16:40:56 GMT
G.A.S. - Gear Acquisition Syndrome. It's an inside joke that originated when we were on the Yahoo Board (I think ).
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Post by mcarp555 on May 16, 2004 18:38:23 GMT
I picked up G.A.S. from the 788 gang back on the original TASCAM board. Most of them are on their own private forum now (like us), and they still talk about having G.A.S.
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Post by mattl on May 16, 2004 18:48:46 GMT
yeas youyre right rob.. i lll remix later, also have the bass too loud.. why are monitors so expensive?!?!
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Post by Spike on May 16, 2004 19:34:55 GMT
Cool little riff.. might bring the vocals out just a tad more.. I like the the way it bubbles along..
Jeff
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