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Post by mattl on May 22, 2004 22:04:36 GMT
many effect, no many takes www.soundclick.com/bands/3/mattlmusic.htmbought some brushes for the drums.. the results should not be made public but.. whos gonna stop me? im ahead of my time.. or somethin like that sounds like bill frisell fusion-"e" it was actually 5 mins but i thought id do ya'll a LITTLE favor and skip the first minute and fade in.. who knows maybe someday i can attempt a serious composition along these lines if i ever develop any patience. (ok im 33 do i really think thats gonna just "happen"?? )
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Post by Spike on May 23, 2004 23:51:06 GMT
Keep at it.. that was interesting even though rough..
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Post by echobase9 on May 24, 2004 4:28:35 GMT
Hey Cat!!! I can really dig that sound you made. It inspired me to create just my own little sounding groove, without the usual 4/4 time! this gave me some vibroinspirations man... right on, a real power outage. I'm gonna save it in my box of tricks, and listen to some more of your noise. I can really dig the big base sound cat
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Post by mcarp555 on May 24, 2004 7:23:42 GMT
I think instead of trying to play the brushes like they were sticks, you should look into using them for the 'swirl' effect on the snare like jazz drummers do. This would be a lot more interesting with a slow swirl, and opening the hi-hat on the 1 every time. Or something like that.
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Post by GKHead on May 24, 2004 12:09:53 GMT
Could have been an outtake from "Bitches Brew" I think what Mike suggests is a great approach for using the brushes, but by all means experiment and keep breaking down those walls of musical conformity !
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Post by mattl on May 24, 2004 17:11:36 GMT
yea i was reading thats what they do (swipe the brushes) but i cant for the life of me hear it in my head.. ill probably hear it and go OH! i better stick to hittin the drums thats all i need is another thing to mess up timing.. anyhow its was fun i wish i coulda done something like this, except tight.. in which case.. hittin with em has a sound too.. heheh
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Post by mcarp555 on May 24, 2004 19:54:14 GMT
Without being bothered to go look, doesn't the PS5 have a jazz pattern where the snare does exactly that? (swirl, that is). . . .
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Post by mattl on May 24, 2004 20:42:33 GMT
i wouldnt know. i refuse to pattern. just say no. i know im an oddity round these parts but you knew that i listen to tons of jazz ill keep my ear open i think i know what the sound is.. its beyond me to play witha swirl. i dunno why i bought em. ill save em for company but really i liked the sound of em hitting them too.. another option
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Post by mcarp555 on May 24, 2004 23:02:46 GMT
Well, I meant for you to listen to, as an example.
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Post by mattl on May 24, 2004 23:47:30 GMT
its ok i im sure ill hear it by week end in something , thanks. i think i know what it is.. ya hear it in slow songs usually right? it must be for there to be time to hear the swirl.. found some things on line.. forget it.. slooks like an item for instruction in person
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Post by JimDurand on May 25, 2004 5:51:11 GMT
I've never been thrilled with brushes and I never use them. As I understand it, this is what you do. With your left hand 1, move the brush on the snare in a clockwise direction. If you apply downward pressure on the brush, it bends and more of the wire comes into contact with the snare head providing more sound. Each time the brush moves past 3 o'clock, hit the snare with the brush in right hand 1. When that feels comfortable, hit with your right hand every other time the left hand brush moves past 3 o'clock. Now your playing a 4 beat rhythm suitable for accompanying fiddle and wash tub bass. Even though the left hand is moving in a circle, it makes most of it's noise sound as it moves from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock. This is because the player presses harder during this arc of the brush. So the practiced brusher ends up doing more of an oval or ellipse with the left hand, verses a circle. The left hand brush is most audible during the left to right swipe. During the right to left retreat, the brush is less audible. As I said above. I never do any of this. [1] The above example was written for the typical Right hander who prefers to hit the snare with their dominant hand. For Lefties, reverse hands.
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Post by mattl on May 25, 2004 17:35:30 GMT
thanks jim!!
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Post by mattl on Jun 5, 2004 4:52:13 GMT
mike: sure as sh.. yea.. i was listening to my vince girauldi (the peanuts music guy) and sure enough i heard the brush swirl.. nice to know how theyre doing that, thanks both!!
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Post by mcarp555 on Jun 5, 2004 9:33:50 GMT
No prob. I forgot that one of the drum pattern modes is 'brush', so you can listen to any of the pattern drums and hear the swirl effect.
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