sgulley
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Post by sgulley on Oct 23, 2005 16:49:41 GMT
This is a new one I wrote the lyrics for and Friday, and recorded and mix most of the day Saturday.
Lyrics are kinda Dylan-like in the cliche throws which may or may not mean something to the listener, but the lyrics are more personal to me in terms of real life experiences.
I dialed in a Mark Koppler (dire-s) guitar tone so it is really Strat-loaded on the high-end. Had to catagorize it as "Country-Pop" since I didn't know how to match it in sound click.
I started by creating a BIAB midi for the backing with some violin soloing in the back behind the guitars.
Interesting anyway if you have time to listen. It actually passed the Matt test, which is to see if it still sounds OK the next day. Let me know what you think.
Stan
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Post by nikonbob55 on Oct 23, 2005 17:12:56 GMT
Very nice piece - extremely introspective lyric, and it's always a pleasure to hear your Strat work! Nice chord structure - keeps it moving along very nicely, and the single note trailing off at the end works very well. Very nicely done, Stan!
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Post by sgulley on Oct 24, 2005 17:17:55 GMT
Bob, I really appreicate your input, and taking the time to listen to the song. Never know how one of these tankers is going to fly.
Even after 2-3 yrs. of listening to forum homegrown songs I still get a big kick out of hearing what other people come up with here. Music is as big as life; in the fact that everyone really does have their own fingerprint, signature, or whatever you want to call it. And it relates in someway to someone else! and its fun, and its cool, and its... yep you can tell I grew up in the 60's.
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Post by nikonbob55 on Oct 24, 2005 20:16:36 GMT
You too, eh? I'm a 1955 model myself, so the 60's were very interesting and formulative both musically and in other ways as well. I always smile when I recall our drummer Steve answering the inevitable question from the club owner who was considering us.... "What kind of music do you guys play?" "We play both kinds - rock AND roll "
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Post by latmat on Nov 7, 2005 4:58:20 GMT
Lyrics are kinda Dylan-like Hey Stan At first listen I immediatly thought Dylan, I like the beat and hoppiness of this track... The lyrics are interesting, good job there! Your productions are improving for sure, this is quite good. Good job mate! ;D Cameron
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sgulley
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Post by sgulley on Nov 7, 2005 16:02:19 GMT
Thanks Cameron for listening. I guess you have had your 2488 for about a year now. It is "Quite the machine." Last set of songs I heard from your SC site were exceptional. I am in a closed area at work so I can't stream 'em in like I use to. I want to hear what you've been up to lately, so I'll get over in the next couple of days and see what has been in production. P.S. -- I got some Bose speakers for my PC this week so it opens up a whole new world when streaming. Those tiny Polk speakers that came with the Pavilion were garbage. Next, probably a new computer. Stan
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Post by mcarp555 on Nov 8, 2005 14:50:30 GMT
Stan - Finally getting around to listening. . . This has a really nice tight feel that sometimes is missing from your mixes. Guitars are staying in line and not straying too far, which helps keep the song coherent. Kind of a surf guitar feel to them. Listening to it in lo-fi, it sounds like the balance between the bass and vocals could be more slightly more even (bass is somewhat louder than the vocals), but it may be the SC player. Are you double-tracking the vocal? Sounds like two. The violin sound comes across like a cheap keyboard. Maybe a better keyboard, or a sax instead? I'd also like to hear more drum fills, esp. going into the chorus. The transition coming out of the verse is sort of lost, and I think it needs to be accented instead.
These few points aside, it sounds like you're starting to come to terms with your mixing. Sounds good overall.
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Post by sgulley on Nov 8, 2005 15:14:54 GMT
Mike, Thanks for your comments. The vocals are panned at "C" and it is just one track through a condenser mic and lots of compression.
Being a BIAB created MIDI, it is not as easy to change the drum fills unless you use BIAB quite a bit, which I don't. Maybe I'll do some research and play around with the drums some more.
Yea, the Violin turned out to sound like a fake harmonica; very cheesy sound. I'll dial around and see if I can get a better instrument into the song. May try to mix this one again with some of your suggestions.
Thanks, Stan
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Post by mcarp555 on Nov 8, 2005 17:01:22 GMT
Things like individual string instruments and saxophones never sound realistic with MIDI; at least to me. Keyboards, drums, great. Nylon-string guitars are good, overdriven electric guitars are bad. At least it would easy enough to change the MIDI parts and reload them into the 2488. It shouldn't affect the sync with the other tracks. I think you're starting to see how the parts you play affect the mixing process. If you have good arrangements, the final mix comes out much tighter.
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Post by sgulley on Nov 14, 2005 16:46:48 GMT
Now I remember after going back to the project for a remix... I do have a harmony part which is more obvious in the new mix. Hope I've evened out the overall sound better. The surf guitar is from the "Sultans of Swing" tone I used on the guitar tracks. Anyway this is a song that, if I listened to next year, wouldn't kringe Thanks for tips. I couldn't get the violin solo out because I couldn't figure out how to do it with BIAB without just totally removing it. So, I kept it in and tried to bring it down to not distract too much. Stan
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Post by holzra on Nov 18, 2005 4:32:57 GMT
you are putting that new tascam to work!!!! i may have misinterpeted the lyrics and the message but pretty damn cool for an ex-gi living in bush country . . . . still feeling the san francisco late 60's feel, but i have told you that before!!!!!!!!!!!! stan, we have to share some 2488 music back and forth . . . . . just don't know how to do it . . . keep rocking, keep writing, but most importantly, keep putting a message forth, it registers.
r
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Post by mcarp555 on Nov 18, 2005 13:17:40 GMT
Roger,
All you'd have to do is export tracks to CD and snail-mail it. Up/downloading wav tracks to the net is a pain.
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Post by nikonbob55 on Nov 19, 2005 13:13:10 GMT
Mike has a good point - by exporting tracks to a CD, then mailing them around, you could get quite the collab going, and you'd have no compatability issues to worry about (all decks being 2488s). Very interesting idea!
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Post by mcarp555 on Nov 19, 2005 13:48:54 GMT
Well, by using standard 24-bit wav files, you could also share the tracks around to anyone with a 788, or Cubase, SONAR, etc.
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Post by nikonbob55 on Nov 20, 2005 1:43:56 GMT
Yes, you certainly could, which would open even more horizons. I was initially thinking of doing a backup of an entire song on the 2488, which would also retain any EQ, pan assignments, etc. - in short, the entire mix in its current state. By using the 24 bit wav files, you're far more "universal" in terms of necessary gear to participate.
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