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2488
Oct 1, 2008 21:18:47 GMT
Post by Girl Friday on Oct 1, 2008 21:18:47 GMT
Well, the 2488 may be too formidable an opponent for me. I am LOST. I have loaded up song 1, assigned a title, followed the directions for recording the guitar track (Thanks Stan for the video!), but nothing but static comes through my headphones. I tested them and my guitar on the PS 5, and all is well, so it's neither the guitar or headphones. I pull up the correct faders, and there's no sound, no sound is registered on the display. Any idea what might be causing the static? No other buttons are pressed.
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2488
Oct 1, 2008 22:10:52 GMT
Post by chrisr on Oct 1, 2008 22:10:52 GMT
How much gain do you have (the TRIM knob) ? Have you assigned a channel ? (the input H key and the select key of the chosen channel should be lit) Are you sure that your guitar jack is pressed deep enough into the input ? Have you tried another channel ? Or another input ? Have you tried recording something with a microphone ? Is that OK, or do you have the same result ?
Now, I don't know the 2488 very well, but usually, GF, these "problems" are just one or other looked over detail. No panic : just try again.
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2488
Oct 1, 2008 22:22:59 GMT
Post by mcarp555 on Oct 1, 2008 22:22:59 GMT
Also make sure the monitor section is engaged properly, you've taken the track out of REC mode, and I think the 2488 has virtual (display only) faders for the montor section. So the physical faders don't have any control over the sound until you're in mixdown mode.
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Oct 2, 2008 2:41:13 GMT
Post by sgulley on Oct 2, 2008 2:41:13 GMT
There is a monitor dial in the upper right hand corner and a monitor mode button (select stereo). Make sure these are set properly. Also make sure the dial is at about 9 to 10 o'clock. Straight up is too much and your headphones will sound too loud. Maybe that is the sound you are hearing.
If your guitar is plugged into H channel (either from the back or the one on the front) and you have it tied to T1 then you should hear you guitar coming clearly through your headphones when T1's fader goes up.
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2488
Oct 2, 2008 2:59:17 GMT
Post by Girl Friday on Oct 2, 2008 2:59:17 GMT
Thanks guys. I will check these things out tomorrow. I also told Stan I ordered a DVD tutorial today and found a couple of YouTubes that may be helpful. I know I can learn this, it's just not very intuitive to me. But rest assured I'm not giving up. And in the process, I'll try not to annoy you with too many questions! I actually found a website that's supposed to be a user's group for that machine, but it doesn't seem as friendly as this one, so I haven't actually used it. Thanks so much for being patient with me. I really appreciate it.
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Oct 2, 2008 16:16:41 GMT
Post by sgulley on Oct 2, 2008 16:16:41 GMT
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Oct 2, 2008 21:18:35 GMT
Post by Girl Friday on Oct 2, 2008 21:18:35 GMT
You all will be so proud!! I figured out the problem!! I tried a different cord, and a different pair of headphones. Here's the deal: The cord and headphones I was using had two issues. First of all, the headphones started hissing when I plugged them in with or without the guitar plugged in. But I knew it wasn't the only problem, because experience taught me that if a signal was going through, even if I couldn't hear it, I should see it on the display screen. But there was nothing. So I checked the same cord and headphones with PS 5. Worked just fine. GF was scratching her head, tempted to cry, but more determined to solve the mystery. So I tried different headphones in 2488. Worked fine! Tried a different cord. BINGO! Worked like a charm! Meters were registering. Sounded GREAT! I got goosebumps!! Yay! But I was still mystified. Why didn't those work on 2488, but worked fine on PS5? The only thing I see is that the tips are different. On the cord that didn't work, there is an extra ring on the tip. I think that might mean stereo? The one that works is a mono/ts, and this is what the 2488 likes! As for the headphones, I'm not sure. Both sets have the stereo tip, but my Bose headphones are noise reduction and have a battery in them. Also, the tip is tiny, so I have to use an adapter. Maybe the 2488 doesn't like this, because my cheap headphones that have the 1/4 inch stereo jack (no adapter) work like a charm. Go figure. I know there's some science behind why this is happening, and even though my sister says I don't have to know how a light bulb works to flip on the light switch, my inner geek likes to know why! haha! One step down, a million to go! As the little engine said..."I think I can! I think I can!"
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2488
Oct 2, 2008 21:37:43 GMT
Post by chrisr on Oct 2, 2008 21:37:43 GMT
Congratulations, GF : you figured out the problem(s) yourself. Just don't tell anybody that you were using stereo jacks for your guitar, OK. Ah, those tiny details... Now that this is solved, have fun with the recording !
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2488
Oct 2, 2008 22:13:05 GMT
Post by Tom on Oct 2, 2008 22:13:05 GMT
Hi GF, Great news that you got it going. Regarding the extra ring on the cable -- on a headphone cable it would mean stereo. But on a cable it that means it a balanced cable as described here: www.wpi.edu/Academics/Depts/HUA/TT/TTHandbook/sound/bal-unbal.htmlThe 2488 standard 1/4 inch TRS inputs are balanced I think (Stan?) There is supposedly an unbalanced input on the 2488 specifically for guitar somewhere on the box - if plugging a guitar directly into the 2488, I would recommend using that one as in addition to being balanced its input impedance is optimized for guitar. All guitars I have used have unbalanced outputs. I think some preamps and guitar effects pedals may have balanced outputs, but can't say for sure. Regards, Tom
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Oct 2, 2008 22:52:34 GMT
Post by sgulley on Oct 2, 2008 22:52:34 GMT
I have a balanced monster cable and 5 unbalanced cables. I haven't seen this problem yet.
About headphones, my headphone jack sometimes needs to be turned a little in order for the sound to come out correctly. It's always been that way. The 2488 headphone hole seems to be more sensitive than others (maybe choosey too)
Great news GF! It sounds like you are seconds away from pressing the Play/Record buttons and getting started.
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2488
Oct 2, 2008 23:03:31 GMT
Post by chrisr on Oct 2, 2008 23:03:31 GMT
Tom,
On the 2488, the audio inputs (on the back : combined XLR/TRS inputs A tot D and TRS inputs E to H) are balanced, but the specific guitar input (on the front) is an unbalanced jack.
As on the Korg D3200, and on all the MTR's (having a specific guitar input) that I know of.
Chris
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Oct 3, 2008 1:59:09 GMT
Post by sgulley on Oct 3, 2008 1:59:09 GMT
Your avg. guitar chord is unbalanced so the H port in the front is basically a guitar input so you don't have to reach around the back (I seldom use the H port in front). In contrast XLR mic chords are almost always wired balanced.
As long as unbalanced chords or patch chords or not over 4 ft. long there should not be any noise introduced. The only time you would really need a balanced 1/4" TRS would be if your unbalanced chords introduce noise. I've never had noise interference with any of my chords so it doesn't matter to me what chord I use when recording.
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2488
Oct 3, 2008 3:15:02 GMT
Post by Girl Friday on Oct 3, 2008 3:15:02 GMT
I tried that original cord in the H input in the back of the machine, and it works. It just doesn't work in that guitar input in the front. I'm learning.
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2488
Oct 3, 2008 15:43:18 GMT
Post by Tom on Oct 3, 2008 15:43:18 GMT
On balanced vs. unbalanced, I wonder about the PS5 -- I/O specs in the manual don't say one way or another. I bought a (pretty darn expensive) balanced cable when I got my recording gear because my Behringer preamp manual said ins and out were balanced/unbalanced. I have used it between the preamp and PS5 when recording vocals, and between my digitech pedal and the PS5 when recording gutar that way. I seem to recall that it sounded better and was louder in the latter case, so maybe the PS5's inputs are balanced as well.
Tom
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Oct 3, 2008 18:34:14 GMT
Post by mcarp555 on Oct 3, 2008 18:34:14 GMT
The PS5's inputs are both unbalanced. Maybe it sounded better & louder because it's probably a better cable. I've had guitar cords in the past that would have been better suited to tying packages with.
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