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Post by latmat on Aug 25, 2014 23:11:56 GMT
https%3A//soundcloud.com/latmat/waves-of-the-future
Hey Guys,
So this is the track "Waves of the Future" I mentioned in my post about my new Stratocaster. All the guitars are that Strat on this recording. Ya so I think I like this one yet it is a bit different in a way... I think this may go on the album, would definitely contrast the other tracks. I also picked up a new plugin bundle from izotope for some mastering applications as well as mixing and vocal treatments. Played around in there, hopefully I didn't go too crazy with those they are very powerful tools could go wrong very fast...
Any way would love hear amy general thoughts on this one or any tips or ideas that might come to mind. I'd say I'm still bit unsure about this one despite kinda digging its vibe.
Thanks
Cameron
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Post by sgulley on Aug 26, 2014 1:23:18 GMT
Yes I really like this vibe as well. I think the high hats need to be shelved down some (seems to interfere with vocals high end a little), and maybe just a little more punch or pop with the snare... just my taste though. Even if the distorted guitars have to come down a little in the chorus I want the vocals to come through a little more. Great song!
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 26, 2014 10:12:34 GMT
I think Stan has pretty much nailed it with his assessment. The only other thing I would suggest is to cut down the vocal reverb by about half. This track is a little more funky, a little more edgy, but the 'verb is the same as you'd find on a ballad. Maybe having it a bit more 'in yer face' would make it more exciting.
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Post by latmat on Aug 30, 2014 4:23:02 GMT
Hey Guys
Thanks for the advice, you were both spot on! I cut out a lot of the reverb and ended up changing my Master bus treatment. I was compensating for the dullness of a dead recording too much so I spread out the duties more accurately through there sub busses. That seemed to help take those harsh cymbals and hi hats that Stan mentioned. Tried to give the snare a kit more punch and pop as well. I think the vocals are a bit louder...
I ended up adding a quick stop in before the repeat chorus. I think this really helped give it that little bit of excitement for the end. To keep it going somewhere I added a lead guitar arpeggio like part to sort of float over that last chorus. I wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on the balance right there, if its just right or needs to come up a bit... I think it is decent but I know it inside and out so ya, I'm not really objective...
https%3A//soundcloud.com/latmat/waves-of-the-future-v2
For chuckles I tried pumping the compressor in time with the track, tried to be very subtle with it to just give it that little bit of energy accenting through out the song... A pretty interesting technique, let me know if bothers you at all.
Thanks guys again, I really appreciate and value your input on these records.
Cameron
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Post by sgulley on Aug 30, 2014 6:34:58 GMT
Now it's flying!!!
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 30, 2014 8:11:24 GMT
Feels very much firmer. If I was to be ultra-critical, I'd suggest pumping up the bass track just a touch more in the very low end (sub 200Hz). It doesn't sound like it would interfere with the kick, but would give the bottom overall a more solid foundation. There's a lot going on in the mid-range, so a touch more low end would get the speakers rocking.
I listened for the compression, but didn't hear it, so that's probably alright.
Is the guitar arpeggio in the left ear? It sounds almost like a distant vocal. I like to hear little odds and ends like that in mixes. Just enough to make the ear sit up and pay attention.
Vocal sounds more lively without being loud. Overall the mix is much sharper. The stop works.
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Post by latmat on Aug 30, 2014 9:28:46 GMT
Thanks for the response guys.
Ya I think your right Mike I probably could give the bass a bit more bottom. The lead guitar I added in the last chorus repeat is actually panned just off center to the right. There is a low harmony that hits on the left just off center then of course I have the high falsetto harmonies which there is one hard left and another one hard right. Ya I agree those little odds and end can give a song a lot value in repeated listens... The danger is keeping a mix from getting too busy.
Yea the stop I think is ultimately good, at least broke up the wall of sound for a moment lol...
This album is starting too take form, it's getting there... I'll fix the bass up and repost later. Thanks again.
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Post by latmat on Aug 30, 2014 22:30:01 GMT
https%3A//soundcloud.com/latmat/waves-of-the-future
Beefed up that Bass, A few small tweaks... Now this mix is feeling good.
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 31, 2014 8:43:41 GMT
Yeah, the bass is nice and sinewy now. Makes the whole track rock-solid. Poke a fork in 'er, it's done.
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