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Post by mcarp555 on Jul 19, 2004 19:57:55 GMT
Well, I'm walking down the street recently, this fella comes up to me and says he hasn't had a bite in two days. So I bit him. When I was a kid, my folks used to tie a pork chop around my neck so the dog would play with me. My wife called me from the store and said someone stole the car. I asked if she saw the guy, and she said "No, but I got the licence number". I just flew in from Vegas, and boy are my arms tired! Off-topic enough for you?
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Post by Havin' Fun on Jul 19, 2004 20:20:06 GMT
Right, no more of this silliness. This is supposed to be a serious thread, where Charlie receives helpful hints for improving his new song.
*burrrrrrrrrrrrp*
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Post by Objecks on Aug 8, 2004 5:43:59 GMT
I re-recorded Son Song (from the heart...) from scratch. In response to feedback and some self-critiquing, I made the following changes: - tightened the lyrics -- shortened some lines and eliminated the repetition of certain words - added percussion and bass on midi -- replaces live bass on the first version - slowed the song slightly -- added about ten seconds to the length - kept the vocal more in tune, although I still hear it veering off from time to time -- need voice lessons! - added a bit of reverb Please let me know what you think of the new version. Charlie
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 8, 2004 13:46:04 GMT
Charlie - the rhythm of the lyrics seems much more comfortable. It scans a lot better. The volume tends to spike a bit when the harmonica comes in, and I'd like the acoustic a bit more 'present' throughout. It might just be the lo-fi, tho. The vocal and kick drum seem to cut through very well, but the guitar seems a bit too far back. You and I have similar problems with vocals in general - keep at it!
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Post by mattl on Aug 8, 2004 18:46:14 GMT
i wont get to these till tonight gotta go get the song from the cape, lookin forward to this and franks redo
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 8, 2004 20:31:16 GMT
Right. No problem.
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Post by mattl on Aug 9, 2004 1:33:15 GMT
funny thing i meant get my SON from the cape (at grammas) not the SONG.. was in a rush.. freudian slip anyhow good retake charlie. i agree w/mikes point, i think previous mix was good, and in particular as you know i liked your bass cause i kinda thought it went with your vocal. but, theres no doubt its more professional what you did in this version..i like the energy of the song and in fact think i like the first better all around, good thing i have a copy hehehehhehe good pic!! gonna haveta email you about your pot hanger we';re lookin for one and not looking to take out a loan to pay for it . oh right, the song... very heartfelt
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Post by Objecks on Aug 15, 2004 23:15:44 GMT
I have posted another update to Son Song (from the heart...). I think this one's my final version, but give me a couple days to see if I'm still happy with it. On this version, I made the following changes: - re-recorded the vocal, this time more in tune (I think). - raised the volume, adjusted eq, and reduced reverb on the guitar to improve its presence. - changed the voice on the midi bass from "fretless bass" to "muted guitar," which is much closer to the sound I was after. - muted the drum track on midi. There's still the volume spike Mike mentioned when my son pulls out of the driveway, but that to me is appropriate for the emotional climax of the song. If I had a way to compress it just a bit without re-recording, I might do that, but I'm OK with it as is. I'm ready to move on to the next song! Charlie
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Post by mattl on Aug 15, 2004 23:57:58 GMT
a fricken men hey? sounds good, good choices.. the "bass", being midi and perfect, keeps time well so to me sounds like a good choice.. i worked about 14-16 hours straight on the latest.. too much time at ONCE is no good i completely lose perspective especially on a major major lack of sleep (i was up all night.. hehehe). somea that spacey guitar sounds good on a lack of sleep and a pot of coffee at 3am.. then the "next day" as you say.. so im listnin as typeing i like it.. muted a bit in places (emotionally) as you say likely due to all the attention on the song.. yep the vocals are more in tune to me too, how bout some wailing guitar break whgen he pulls outta the driveway.. a concept song.. ok i gotta go to bed thaNKS FOR SHARING YOUR TUNES W/US CHARLIE
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Post by Objecks on Aug 16, 2004 1:13:38 GMT
Thanks, Matt. Yeah, for me there's a trade off between the emotion and keeping the vocal in tune. Seems like when I pour on the emotion I lose control over where the pitch will end up!
Thanks Mike, Matt, and everyone else who provided feedback! You have helped me to improve the quality of the song, performance, and recording.
Charlie
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Post by sgulley on Aug 16, 2004 1:39:02 GMT
Charlie, Excellent quality. The vocals were pleasing. Really liked the song to begin with. You just improved it!
Enjoyed listening. Stan
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Post by mcarp555 on Aug 16, 2004 8:55:25 GMT
A much better mix, especially compared to the first version we heard. Even the infamous 'driveway spike' is smoother. Yeah, there are still some iffy tuning areas with the vocal, but the song overall has certainly benefited from the time spent nailing down the details. Now put it away for a week or so before you listen to it again.
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